And what about average aussie shareholders in these mining companies? The minng tax will just screw US!!! You socialist, class-war wankers are a flash back to the 1950s! Wake up and grow up!
Grant, mate. The mining tax will have no lasting effect on your shares. Australia’s corporate mining brats will continue to make a killing emtpying the Australian sandpit and your beloved shares will continue to rise. I understand why you’ve invested in mining companies. If you can’t beat ‘em’ join ‘em, right? I’m not a sociaist, but I can’t help but feel a little robbed watching health, education and infrastructure decay and thousands of ordinary Australian’s struugle why a few get horribly, filthy rich. If you believe in democracy you believe in equal representation. Tell me, do you have a lazy $100 millon to splash around on misleading advertising campaigns everytime you disagree with government policy..?
Shaun the socialist, what an apt name! If more aussies DID the right thing during the 60s, 70s etc, then maybe these companies would be 90% aussie owned and these aussies wouldn’t need FREE health (at someone elses expense), FREE education (at someone elses expense), FREE infrastructure (at someonses exponse). BUT NO!! average workers had a unionist loser attitude to money, spend it on piss, nags, cigs, pokies etc etc etc – WASTE! to hell with the future! Now these same losers, like you, complain these companies aren’t majority aussie owned AND you expect more government theft to pay for all these loser’s FREEBIES!! GET F”D!! you’re all nothing but inept criminal thieves, expecting other aussies to pay for your screwups! Just like the current Labor government.
I wish I had your money to run counter adds, saying simply “what about aussie shareholders?? .. these criminals didn’t even mention them!”
I’m assuming (though by how idiotic you rant is it’s debatable) that you have completed schooling. Even if you attended a private school they recieve a large amount of funding from the government. And where do you think that money comes from? Are you honestly trying to say that it is unfair for money to be put towards providing education. Again I ask, are you insane? On that note if it is infact the case that you are insane are your mining mangnate friends going to provide you with free mental health treatment? No – but the public health system will.
You know why there is no ads asking Australians to care about shareholders – because it wouldn’t work. Besides, you really think that the mining billionaires are going to stop exploiting Australia’s natural resources. Your precious shares will be fine.
An lastly, when all the naturl resources are gone, do you think these mining executives are going to be reaching into their deep pockets to fork out for the clean up and repair the destruction that their mining practices has caused to the environment?
The mining sector, like all private sectors, lobbies fiercely for the provision of infrastructure by the state through taxpayer funding to meet their requirements.
To claim otherwise is naïve at best.
Furthermore, over the past 20 years of Coalition leadership at a federal level (in two separate stints) there has never once been a reduction in spending in real terms by the Liberal Party led government. So, insofar as “freebies” from the government at a federal level, your apparent preferred party is just as at fault.
You obviously don’t understand the message in these adds, it has nothing to do with class wars or anything like that. It is about protecting the economy and jobs into the future. What are we going to do when all the resources are gone and we didn’t keep any of the wealth they generated in Australia? Perhaps we can start exporting the overburden that the big miners left behind for us, surely someone will want it?????? Or maybe we can find a way to eat it, after all how else are we going to feed the huge amount of foreign workers we bought in to dig up our resources during this short boom period? Wake up and stop swallowing the shit the big miners are feeding you.
JP the ads are obviously class warfare – rich v poor, or should I say “Evil” Rich V “Innocent” Poor. Isn’t it funny how socialists and criminals think alike! they think they own everything! that’s why thieves break into people’s homes, that’s why governments steal off companies and individual aussies! NO!! Governments don’t own all resources, they belong to those aussies who risk $$$$ searching for then developing these assets, NOT to dead-beats who drift through life expecting the government (and unions) to give them a job, a home, free education for their kids, free health, F’N FREE EVERYTHING!! .. just like criminals. As the old saying goes – NO RISK – NO REWARD!
The money produced from these resources are FAR better off in the hands of average aussies, not governments, who’ll waste it on – burning down homes, killing tradies (hello Peter, where are you??? MIA!), lining the pockets of criminal builders with over priced work!! (all the mates of Labor party, unions) etc etc etc
You contradict yourself so many times in your statement I was beginning to think I was listening to Tony Abbott. You say the money should be in the hands of Everyday Australians, yet you are happy for the big mining companies to take it off shore and Australian people to have none? No one is asking for free anything mate, all the Australian people are asking for is a tiny sahare, and thats all this tax will take is a tiny share and a chance to sustain us into the future. Tell me please what your plan is for Australian people to survive on when the resources boom ends?
@JP and Shaun,
There is always an impact if tax is increased. We as Australians need to understand that there are options for companies to move investment and jobs elsewhere. Just look what happened with Pacific Brands?
Don’t think it can’t happen with mining. If companies perceive a better return on their investment, they will invest in new mines elsewhere. Sure, they may carry on with existing mines, but for how long.
The stupid issue with the mining tax is that it will be used by Government, not for new infrastructure, but to pay off current debt. And the new broadband is another white elephant and bad investment.
The way the new mining tax was introduced reminded me of watching a bunch of amateurs trying to build a house. The first bit of wind will blow it down. The Henry tax review has been hijacked and instead of tax reform we just get more taxes, which will have an impact across the board.
Let them go over seas, our resourses will still be here. There will always be a demand for reources, lets protect jobs and our economy into the future. If the mining boom eases back, it can only be good for us. Instead of bringing in hundreds of thousands of over seas workers to dig up all our resourses overnight, lets make it last so that it is a sustainable industry into the future. Lets make it last so that our kids and grand kids can have a job.
Like I said earlier wake up and stop swallowing the bullshit that the big miners/liberal party are feeding you, surely you are not that gallible, surely.
I am in favour of socialism and don’t see why socialists should have to apologise for arguing that billionaires should pay their taxes. Countries like Sweden and Norway somehow have very high standards of living but also have high taxes on the wealthy and have maintained that state of affairs for most of the last century and this one. As to Charlie’s argument that the mining companies will move elsewhere, if they are simply digging up the common wealth without contributing a fair share of it back to the rest of the community then there is no great loss to the rest of us if they choose to head offshore. Taxes on mining in Australia are less than in many developing countries so if these people really do spit the dummy and go home (as opposed to just crying about it) then someone else who is willing to pay their share of taxes will take over their investments.
I’m not living in Aus anymore, but following your arguments with some interest. As far as I understand the coal in Australia is the best in the world. Where else are the mining companies going to go?
We’re a major source of brown and black coal (projections indicate enough for another ~400 years, if we aren’t done medium-rare by global warming), we have fairly large deposits of oil/gas, both near bass strait, and northwest of northern WA. We have over 95% of the world’s uranium deposits, with almost every single actual economically viable deposit of uranium ore in Australia. We have massive deposits of 90% pure iron (quite often, it’s purified to about 60% before being sold on the international market, so we have to ADD SAND INTO THE IRON, instead of actually removing it). Do we really need to worry about companies moving overseas just because we demand a realistic tax?
It’s pretty hard to feel sorry for Gina, Twiggy and Clive and the Mining tax when it takes them 15-30 minutes to earn what I do in a year. I’m not crying poor I have a very nice lifestyle so if those guys think they are going to be badly affected they must be very poor business people.
Brilliant. takes Gina 22.1 minutes to make what I get in a year.
Poor Twiggy can earn mine in 14 min- that would be about one corroborree worth
1060000 YEARS to earn Forrest’s net worth – I better knuckle down…
And what about average aussie shareholders in these mining companies? The minng tax will just screw US!!! You socialist, class-war wankers are a flash back to the 1950s! Wake up and grow up!
Grant.
Grant, mate. The mining tax will have no lasting effect on your shares. Australia’s corporate mining brats will continue to make a killing emtpying the Australian sandpit and your beloved shares will continue to rise. I understand why you’ve invested in mining companies. If you can’t beat ‘em’ join ‘em, right? I’m not a sociaist, but I can’t help but feel a little robbed watching health, education and infrastructure decay and thousands of ordinary Australian’s struugle why a few get horribly, filthy rich. If you believe in democracy you believe in equal representation. Tell me, do you have a lazy $100 millon to splash around on misleading advertising campaigns everytime you disagree with government policy..?
Shaun the socialist, what an apt name! If more aussies DID the right thing during the 60s, 70s etc, then maybe these companies would be 90% aussie owned and these aussies wouldn’t need FREE health (at someone elses expense), FREE education (at someone elses expense), FREE infrastructure (at someonses exponse). BUT NO!! average workers had a unionist loser attitude to money, spend it on piss, nags, cigs, pokies etc etc etc – WASTE! to hell with the future! Now these same losers, like you, complain these companies aren’t majority aussie owned AND you expect more government theft to pay for all these loser’s FREEBIES!! GET F”D!! you’re all nothing but inept criminal thieves, expecting other aussies to pay for your screwups! Just like the current Labor government.
I wish I had your money to run counter adds, saying simply “what about aussie shareholders?? .. these criminals didn’t even mention them!”
Areyou insane??
I’m assuming (though by how idiotic you rant is it’s debatable) that you have completed schooling. Even if you attended a private school they recieve a large amount of funding from the government. And where do you think that money comes from? Are you honestly trying to say that it is unfair for money to be put towards providing education. Again I ask, are you insane? On that note if it is infact the case that you are insane are your mining mangnate friends going to provide you with free mental health treatment? No – but the public health system will.
You know why there is no ads asking Australians to care about shareholders – because it wouldn’t work. Besides, you really think that the mining billionaires are going to stop exploiting Australia’s natural resources. Your precious shares will be fine.
An lastly, when all the naturl resources are gone, do you think these mining executives are going to be reaching into their deep pockets to fork out for the clean up and repair the destruction that their mining practices has caused to the environment?
Grant, you might need to see an anger management consultant. Not sure if you can get one on Medicare though.
The mining sector, like all private sectors, lobbies fiercely for the provision of infrastructure by the state through taxpayer funding to meet their requirements.
To claim otherwise is naïve at best.
Furthermore, over the past 20 years of Coalition leadership at a federal level (in two separate stints) there has never once been a reduction in spending in real terms by the Liberal Party led government. So, insofar as “freebies” from the government at a federal level, your apparent preferred party is just as at fault.
Wow, Clive Palmer makes my annual salary in an hour and a half – I wonder what he does with the rest of his year.
Grant,
You obviously don’t understand the message in these adds, it has nothing to do with class wars or anything like that. It is about protecting the economy and jobs into the future. What are we going to do when all the resources are gone and we didn’t keep any of the wealth they generated in Australia? Perhaps we can start exporting the overburden that the big miners left behind for us, surely someone will want it?????? Or maybe we can find a way to eat it, after all how else are we going to feed the huge amount of foreign workers we bought in to dig up our resources during this short boom period? Wake up and stop swallowing the shit the big miners are feeding you.
JP
JP the ads are obviously class warfare – rich v poor, or should I say “Evil” Rich V “Innocent” Poor. Isn’t it funny how socialists and criminals think alike! they think they own everything! that’s why thieves break into people’s homes, that’s why governments steal off companies and individual aussies! NO!! Governments don’t own all resources, they belong to those aussies who risk $$$$ searching for then developing these assets, NOT to dead-beats who drift through life expecting the government (and unions) to give them a job, a home, free education for their kids, free health, F’N FREE EVERYTHING!! .. just like criminals. As the old saying goes – NO RISK – NO REWARD!
The money produced from these resources are FAR better off in the hands of average aussies, not governments, who’ll waste it on – burning down homes, killing tradies (hello Peter, where are you??? MIA!), lining the pockets of criminal builders with over priced work!! (all the mates of Labor party, unions) etc etc etc
You contradict yourself so many times in your statement I was beginning to think I was listening to Tony Abbott. You say the money should be in the hands of Everyday Australians, yet you are happy for the big mining companies to take it off shore and Australian people to have none? No one is asking for free anything mate, all the Australian people are asking for is a tiny sahare, and thats all this tax will take is a tiny share and a chance to sustain us into the future. Tell me please what your plan is for Australian people to survive on when the resources boom ends?
@JP and Shaun,
There is always an impact if tax is increased. We as Australians need to understand that there are options for companies to move investment and jobs elsewhere. Just look what happened with Pacific Brands?
Don’t think it can’t happen with mining. If companies perceive a better return on their investment, they will invest in new mines elsewhere. Sure, they may carry on with existing mines, but for how long.
The stupid issue with the mining tax is that it will be used by Government, not for new infrastructure, but to pay off current debt. And the new broadband is another white elephant and bad investment.
The way the new mining tax was introduced reminded me of watching a bunch of amateurs trying to build a house. The first bit of wind will blow it down. The Henry tax review has been hijacked and instead of tax reform we just get more taxes, which will have an impact across the board.
Charlie,
Let them go over seas, our resourses will still be here. There will always be a demand for reources, lets protect jobs and our economy into the future. If the mining boom eases back, it can only be good for us. Instead of bringing in hundreds of thousands of over seas workers to dig up all our resourses overnight, lets make it last so that it is a sustainable industry into the future. Lets make it last so that our kids and grand kids can have a job.
Like I said earlier wake up and stop swallowing the bullshit that the big miners/liberal party are feeding you, surely you are not that gallible, surely.
JP
I am in favour of socialism and don’t see why socialists should have to apologise for arguing that billionaires should pay their taxes. Countries like Sweden and Norway somehow have very high standards of living but also have high taxes on the wealthy and have maintained that state of affairs for most of the last century and this one. As to Charlie’s argument that the mining companies will move elsewhere, if they are simply digging up the common wealth without contributing a fair share of it back to the rest of the community then there is no great loss to the rest of us if they choose to head offshore. Taxes on mining in Australia are less than in many developing countries so if these people really do spit the dummy and go home (as opposed to just crying about it) then someone else who is willing to pay their share of taxes will take over their investments.
I hope the Super Profits Tax targets the major banks next…………
Gina Reinhart makes my salary in 3.7 minutes ): Lucky bitch.
I’m not living in Aus anymore, but following your arguments with some interest. As far as I understand the coal in Australia is the best in the world. Where else are the mining companies going to go?
We’re a major source of brown and black coal (projections indicate enough for another ~400 years, if we aren’t done medium-rare by global warming), we have fairly large deposits of oil/gas, both near bass strait, and northwest of northern WA. We have over 95% of the world’s uranium deposits, with almost every single actual economically viable deposit of uranium ore in Australia. We have massive deposits of 90% pure iron (quite often, it’s purified to about 60% before being sold on the international market, so we have to ADD SAND INTO THE IRON, instead of actually removing it). Do we really need to worry about companies moving overseas just because we demand a realistic tax?
It’s pretty hard to feel sorry for Gina, Twiggy and Clive and the Mining tax when it takes them 15-30 minutes to earn what I do in a year. I’m not crying poor I have a very nice lifestyle so if those guys think they are going to be badly affected they must be very poor business people.